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...did you come up with that? Because if you did I'll have to love you for life.

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 Post subject: Re: Sacred Cows
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Also, I just realized I don't know the difference between socialism and communism. :/ That's a little upsetting; can anyone help me out on this?

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Sorry, didn't come up with it but it's totally relevant. The original one I heard was to slap people in the face with one's phallus, but thought the throat version was more appropriate.

I'm not someone who's good at economics, so I'm going to redirect you to some websites as well because everything there is more succinct ^^.Straight-forward comparison John Green talking about Capitalism and Socialism, another comparison

In communism, everything is shared and controlled by the state and in socialism, the state still owns and controls some things, but individuals are also able to own their own things and everyone is provided free health care and education.

Really bad summary by me, yeah.

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Having a religion/opinion is like having a penis. Its ok to have one, its not ok to force it down other people's throats.

That's it. That's my contribution to the topic.


Much faster way of saying all that I tried to do in like 3 paragraphs. I commend you good sir. *tips hat*

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MusicMan108 wrote:
Also, I just realized I don't know the difference between socialism and communism. :/ That's a little upsetting; can anyone help me out on this?



"Communism" usually means a system in which the state controls all major industries, and so the employees, ultimately, get their wages from the state as well. One of the main purposes of this is that Communist society aims to make pay a lot more equal. Communism has a huge focus on the working class, and aims to destroy the class system altogether eventually.

The form of Communism we're most familiar with is Marxism. In Marxism, a country goes through a period called "Dictatorship of the Proletariat", in which society is restructured, industries are nationalised, and eventually, power is distributed to local councils. Eventually, the Marxist ideal is that central government itself becomes less and less necessary. The USSR started out with Marxist ideals, and towards the end of his life, there were signs that Lenin was beginning to transition power to the local councils. When he died, his successor Stalin simply stayed in the "Dictatorship" phase, going against Marxist theory.



"Socialism", on the other hand, refers to a much wider range of beliefs. Classical socialists believe in nationalising industries (though not necessarily all of them; often only the most important, like transport, water, healthcare, education, and power etc). Socialists believe that private companies are not fit to run the most important industries like these, because the sole motivation of private companies is to make money. They also believe in far more equal pay, and they tend to support government regulation of private companies, to lessen inequalities as far as is possible.

Essentially, Communism is an extreme form of Socialism. But, that doesn't mean that all Socialists are Communists; the majority are more moderate. I'm a Socialist, but not a Communist, for example.

To show how Socialism embraces a wide range: French President Hollande and Venezuela's former President Hugo Chavez are both Socialists, but Chavez is far further to the Left than Hollande (though neither are Communists).

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Hey look someone managed to explain socialism and communism in a neat, concise way, explaining both sides equally. Thank you Roman agriculture/forest deity! That was actually really helpful in my understanding as well (which was pretty much nil, as you might have guessed).

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Much faster way of saying all that I tried to do in like 3 paragraphs. I commend you good sir. *tips hat*

I curtsy in return. It's one of those sayings I've picked up, and seemed applicable (as it is in all situations).

Ok now, why does playing an instrument besides cello, violin, flute or saxophone automatically make you nerdy?

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Uh, do you mean the opposite?

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One thing I've noticed: I've tried asking questions a bit in class (i.e. WHY do we need to learn this or research Shakespeare or why e exists in math), and while teachers have tried answering, one teacher replied but didn't answer and quite a few students got rather fed up.

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Oh, thought of another one today: symbolism. Seriously, why can't authors just be straightforward instead? What's the point?

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MusicMan108 wrote:
Oh, thought of another one today: symbolism. Seriously, why can't authors just be straightforward instead? What's the point?



Well, this one's purely subjective. Many great and good writers don't use symbolism, but many do, and it's all a matter of personal preference.


Sometimes, you have to communicate a feeling or general idea to your concept, but stating it outright would detract from the story. I'll use the example that occurred to me-- in The Shining, the Hotel is infested with bees' nests, and Jack repeatedly tries to clear them out. His constant failure to do so causes him more and more stress. The Hotel's infestation is a "symbol" for Jack's madness: if he defeats it, it only comes back.

If Stephen King had opted instead to simply state that Jack's mind was breaking, it would have had a lot less of an impact when it finally broke. We can put ourselves in his shoes, fighting an unwinnable battle, and get a much better idea of how he's feeling.

I use this example, because when I was younger, I remember reading the book and having exactly the same complaint that you do now-- saying to my brother that symbolism is pointless, etc.

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