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 Post subject: Looking for Lackadaisy Threads
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A thread to discuss where one can find period-appropriate threads. I've bumped the discussion down to the end of this post and moved useful info to the top for those who just want references and don't care so much about the development of the topic. If you'd like me to add something, message me!

General Advice
Brands to look for: Stetson, Bailey, Jaxon, Stacey Adam
If a pocket watch is problematic or undesirable, consider at least getting a cheap chain for a watch mock-up. Nobody has to know there's no watch attached. :) Wristwatches were also coming into vogue in the '20s, though probably nothing digital. :p
We recommend fedoras over trilbys.
In period, suspenders would be considered underwear.
When wearing a vest/waistcoat, the bottom button should not be buttoned.
Zoot Suits are post-period.

Forum Threads of Interest
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=11985 - A pre-existing discussion of Fashion References.
viewforum.php?f=8 - The OOC RP forum might be worth a look in general.

Non-Forum Discussions of Period Clothes
http://vintagedancer.com/1920s/what-to- ... -twenties/

Non-Store Options
A Theater/Arts major may be willing to help you out with attire, or help you shop for it. Be careful of getting items that are more Halloween costumey than you might prefer.

Real Stores
Thrift Shops - The odds that you'll find something period (or close enough) are pretty good...whether it will be in your size is a different question entirely. Places catering specifically to retro fashion may have higher prices.
Goodwill Industries - http://www.goodwill.org/ - Lots of stuff, cheap. I got a suit jacket and pants along with a shirt and a bunch of ties for about $40.
Party City - http://www.partycity.com/ - I know, I know...but they do sell suspenders and some hats that may be period enough for your tastes. I don't recommend the plastic ones. :p
Bridal/Wedding Shops - May be able to get measurements for you and have potential clothes, though probably not cheap.
Kohl's - http://www.kohls.com/ - More budget-priced clothes items, including suits and vests. If you get one of their cards you can get discounts. I was able to get a short-sleeve button-down shirt and a vest at very reasonable prices!
Men's Wearhouse - http://www.menswearhouse.com/ - sells pricey but good clothes. They'll also do your measurements for free.
H&M - http://www.hm.com/us/ - I can't personally say much about this one, but it can't hurt to look!

Online Stores
http://www.contemposuits.com/ - Sells some interesting period and near-period style clothing. In particular I'd recommend checking out the Stacy Adams shoes and suits. While you can only order items in the size pairings they offer, the pants are adjustable by 2", so there's a bit of flexibility.
Amazon - I can't necessarily recommend buying clothes from Amazon, but I did get a pocket watch and pocket squares from them. Recommended brands to look for: Stetson, Bailey, Jaxon, Stacey Adam



So, as you may or may not know, Our Dearest Tracy is going to be (a) Guest of Honor at Anthrocon this year.

I'm consequently planning on attending, and as the con itself is '20s themed, I'd rather like to dress the part, at least some of the time.

Therefore, I put the question to you fine folks...anyone have good resources for '20s clothing, whether it's 'make your own', 'give me money and I'll make it' or 'give these people money and they'll make it'?

I'm definitely looking for something more advanced than strictly theatrical costume level work. Not to impugn that, I just want something more substantial.

Anyone have feelings as to whether we should ask whether this thread can be made a sticky, as it seems like something that could potentially be permanently helpful to folks.

The most promising site I've found thus far is http://www.contemposuits.com/

Thanks in advance!

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 Post subject: Re: Looking for Lackadaisy Threads
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Lol, stickied it for ya. Depending on how if it bothers people to have it stickied, I can always unsticky it. :3

I've actually been looking for wingtips for years. . .still haven't found any for a cheaper price that weren't dancing shoes.

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 Post subject: Re: Looking for Lackadaisy Threads
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That was a faster reply than I was expecting. :) Thanks for the assist! I just figured general costuming resources for the LD fans would make for a good sticky thread.

I had a friend suggest that I approach theater majors, as they'd likely do stuff for cheap, but that keys into my concern that what I'd get would work well as a costume but wouldn't pass as actual period clothing. No offense intended to any theater majors. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Looking for Lackadaisy Threads
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I believe I bought my suit at H&M several years ago. . . Had a great pinstripe hat to go with it that I lost on my final flight back to the US (which I'm still cursing about). I have a replacement, but I forgot to make sure it was pinstripe. . .

That aside, I really just need the wingtips and maybe a pocket watch and chain to complete the look. I even have suspenders!

But yea, you can sometimes find good suits at proper retailers, actually. It's obviously not 100% authentic, but it looks good, and could probably certainly pass for layfolks.

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I'm interested in this as well, though for slightly different reasons; if at all possible, I'm looking to acquire exactly what my OC wears.

Exactly.

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Not to show my ignorance, but...H&M? Do they have a website?

Hm, I should try to make a point of modifying my first post to include useful links...

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 Post subject: Re: Looking for Lackadaisy Threads
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H&M

I think it's a Swedish chain, technically? I bought my suit in Finland tho, and they might not have it available in the US shop. Also, this was like 4 years ago.

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Hm. Sorry, couldn't help myself... :p

Nice site for clothes, but hard to tell what might be (more) period-appropriate...

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Honestly, for men's clothing, I'd go thrifting first. Men's fashion has not changed all that much in a very long time. Lapel sizes and the location on your body of where you wear your pants is about all that's really changed. I have seen plenty of zuit suits, but those are more 30s than 20s. You'd probably have an easier time, and be more comfortable in more casual day wear. Or even sports wear. Tan pants, white collared shirt, ascot, a sweater vest, with a flat cap or one of those straw hats maybe. In the OOC section there are a few threads for 20s fashion references if to get an idea of outfits without having to do the googling haha

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 Post subject: Re: Looking for Lackadaisy Threads
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At work right now so can't look this over in detail, but thanks in advance!

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Some procurement has occurred:

Goodwill netted me a pinstripe jacket and matching (enough) pants, several ties, and a button-down casual (i.e. can't button the top button, so wouldn't wear it with a tie) shirt for about $40.

A place called Party City yielded me a "close-enough" black pinstripe fedora and a -purple- fedora (purple is my thing) as well as purple suspenders for about $30.

I say that's not bad at all.

I need to go through my button-down shirts and see what might be workable, especially with ties. More snazzy ones than flat colors would be nice too. Additionally, while I have dress shoes, if I could find something more period-looking, that would be a win.

So I would say I'm pretty close to "minimum requirements" at this point, but have significant room for improvement.

If anyone has thoughts, I'd welcome them! I'm not quite at the posting pics phase I'm afraid.

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If you're gonna wear a Fedora, wear a good one. Not one of those crappy Wal Mart " Nice guys finish last" pieces of garbage.


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I'm not exactly sure where you're drawing the line between "good" and...er...Wal-Mart...

ETA: Possibly a useful resource: http://vintagedancer.com/1920s/what-to- ... -twenties/

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If you're gonna wear a Fedora, wear a good one. Not one of those crappy Wal Mart " Nice guys finish last" pieces of garbage.


A trilby, you mean? I'm not too fond of them myself. It's makes me sick to my stomach when I google "fedora" and over half of the images are of that hipster abomination charming piece of headwear.

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